This page will try to answer some of the questions pertaining to HR 218
Law Enforcement Safety Improvement Act of 2010
On October 12, 2010, the President signed the “Law Enforcement Safety Improvement Act of 2010”, amending the “Law Enforcement Officer Safety Act of 2004” (“LEOSA”, commonly referred to by members of law enforcement as “HR 218” or the “Right to Carry” law). The LEOSA of 2004 was intended to allow active and retired law enforcement officers to carry concealed weapons nationwide without having first obtained permits from the states to which they are traveling. In the Summer and Fall 2005 PBA Magazines, we explained the law and its various problems and ambiguities, particularly with respect to its coverage of retirees.
The new amendment includes significant changes for both active and retired PBA members in the following areas:
Qualifications of Active Members Who Are Subject to Discipline
Under the old law, an active LEO would not be considered a qualified LEO for purposes of carrying out of state where they were the “subject of any disciplinary action by an agency.” Pursuant to the amendment, an active LEO will be qualified unless they are the “subject of any disciplinary action by the agency which could result in suspension or loss of police powers.” Despite the apparent relaxation of the disciplinary exception, there is still ambiguity as to at what point in the disciplinary process a law enforcement officer would be considered to be “subject to disciplinary action,” as well as whether disciplinary action is of the variety that “could result” in suspension or loss of police powers. We therefore urge our active members to exercise caution in determining whether to carry out of state if they have reason to believe they may be the subject of discipline.
Qualification of Retirees
Under the old law, in order to be a “Qualified Retired Law Enforcement Officer” (“QRLEO”) permitted to carry in another state, the retiree had to have met the standards and qualifications for active law enforcement officers (“LEO”) established by the state in which he or she resides, or otherwise be certified to carry firearms by the law enforcement agency from which he or she retired, within the last year. This was problematic for our retirees residing in New York state due to the state’s reluctance to establish any statewide standards and the NYPD’s refusal to create a certification procedure for retired members.
The amended law has created two additional ways for a separated member to qualify as a QRLEO. Where as in New York, the state has not established standards and qualifications, a member may also become qualified if he or she meets the standards and qualifications of any law enforcement agency within the state, or a certified firearms instructor that is qualified to conduct a firearms qualification test for active duty officers within the state.
Correspondingly, the certification that a QRLEO must carry along with his ID card in order to be protected by the law may be issued by either the state in which he or she resides or a certified firearms instructor, and must indicate that the member has met the standards of the state, or any law enforcement agency within the state, within the last year.
Finally, a former police officer need not actually be “retired” after 15 years of service in order to be a QRLEO, as under the original law. A former police officer need only be “separated from service in good standing” after 10 years of service. Note that the 10 year service requirement does not apply to line of duty retirees. A separated officer also need no longer be entitled to retirement benefits pursuant to the agency’s retirement plan in order to be a QRLEO, as was required under the old law. Notwithstanding these changes, it is not clear that our separated (but not retired) members would be authorized to carry, even if certified, because we understand that the Department does not issue ID cards to non-retired members and the law requires members to possess an ID card from the officer’s former police agency. Our guidance is not to attempt to carry a firearm under HR 218 if you do not possess a police agency ID card. If precedent is established that would change that guidance, we will update you through this website.
The right to carry now includes the right to carry any ammunition not otherwise banned by Federal law. Therefore the law now allows members to carry hollow point bullets in states such as New Jersey, where they are otherwise prohibited.
Any questions regarding the right to carry out of state should be directed to the PBA General Counsel’s office, at 212-298-9194.
From the PBA General Counsel's Office
A FEW HR 218 QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT TO THE WEB SITE
Flying aboard a commercial airline:
There is no way to carry-on your weapon on a plane, it has to be declared (very important) at the luggage counter and you have to advise them that you have a weapon in your luggage and that it is unloaded and registered they will then call security they will open the luggage with you present, check the weapon to see if the weapon is empty and if it is locked in a case inside your luggage and then check your permit. The weapon has to be in a lockable gun or pistol case with a trigger lock and you have to have a lock on the case. They will put a plastic security tie wrap through the handles of the gun case and then it's allowed to proceed. They will give you a red or white decoration card depending on the air carrier you’re using. When you land and pick up your baggage you have to open it and check the plastic tie wrap to see if it's still secure, if it's not report it to security forthwith. Seems like a lot of bullshit, but if you don't do it this way and they catch it with the x-ray there would be three times the bullshit to go through. You will probably be arrested as a terrorist.
In New York: Important
10 round magazines, NO 15 round magazines, no excuses, if you try to renew your pistol license at One Police Plaza there is a box to check at the bottom of the application on how many rounds does the weapon hold, if you check more than ten your application will be rejected
The 10 round limits seems to be the same in many states, NY being one of them, If I thought 10 wasn’t enough, I would do one of two things, I would go to the nearest range and practice or I would carry an extra magazine with 10 more rounds, if you need it, it takes a second to reload. New York insists on a 10 round magazine, no excuses, elsewhere a 15 round magazine with only 10 rounds in it is OK, let me add that he round in the chamber does NOT count, even in New York So if you have a 10 round magazine and one in the chamber you really have 11. That's enough in most cases. If you’re down at One Police Plaza they have the 10 round magazines.
The No being drunk is mandatory, all over in fifty states, if you want to drink leave the weapon at home, It will void the requirements of HR 218, if you visit Hawaii, 1 once of liquor is enough to get you collared when you’re carrying. Each state has its own set of rules; you have to be conscious of them if you’re spending time vacationing away from home. Florida has its own set of many petty rules, no weapons in federal parks and city owned buildings among many other regulations. I’m just trying to mention a few of the many that may be out there in vacation land. Play heads up and everything will be fine.
Some states also include a no narcotics rule, they don’t mean only illegal drugs, they are vague on the legal prescription drugs, such as the ones that state don’t drive or some types that make you drowsy. Let’s face it, try to get as much info on the state you’re vacationing in or passing through. You don’t want to screw up a vacation you deserve.
Take care, if I can help just E mail the question and I’ll do the research and get back to you.